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Forum diskusi panamaforum.com ambruk? diserang bandit vgmc?

Setelah berhasil memberikan informasi akurat tentang ke- scam -an vgmc beserta penerus vgmc, Forum diskusi panamaforum.com ambruk ya? diserang para bandit vgmc ya? Ketika Anda mengeklik panama forum dan ingin mencari update terbaru dari sana, ternyata domain tersebut sudah diparkir.

Jangan khawatir, arsip catatan tentang riwayat kebejatan vgmc akan kami tayangkan di sini, secara bertahap:

Halaman 1:

https://panamaforum.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/archive-of-panama-forum-alternative-on-virgin-gold-mining-corporation-scam-page-1/

Halaman 2:

https://panamaforum.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/archive-of-panama-forum-alternative-on-virgin-gold-mining-corporation-scam-page-2/

 

…. halaman-halaman berikutnya akan kami susulkan …… jangan khawatir, sekali scam, vgmc akan tetap scam!!!! data dan informasinya tentang scam vgmc dari panama forum dot com sudah kami selamatkan!!!!!! biar bisa menjadi catatan sejarah yang bisa dipakai anak anak dan cucu cucu mendatang kalau ada lagi program scam di masa masa mendatang.

VGMC Scam Panama Forum: Karena kesal tidak dapat melacak rekam jejak para corporate executives dari VGMC

VGMC Scam Panama Forum: Karena kesal tidak dapat melacak rekam jejak para corporate executives dari VGMC, para anggota malahan menemukan bahwa mereka adalah mayat mayat yang tercatat di database para mayat.

Berikut adalah posting mereka.

Posting Nomor 626. User Viewpoint kesulitan mencari dan menemukan siapakah

Vice President of Public Listing and Investor Relations: Matthew Jacobsen

Vice President of Operations, Exploration, Discovery and Development : Paulo Marcus Nolinski

Vice President of the Legal, External Affairs and Compliance Department : Stephan Karl Burke

Bapak Viewpoint tidak berhasil menemukan catatan prestasi maupun public profile dari para eksekutor VGMC tersebut, bahkan sebaliknya kalau pembaca melihat postingan di Panama Forum #626, sidang pembaca akan mendapati Pak Viewpoint menemukan link ke riwayat kematian mereka berempat.

Demikian pula Pak BalaBeacher di posting 624, dia tidak bisa menemukan siapa sebenarnya
Vice President of Accounts and Finance:  Ms. Ruby Christensen

Di posting 623, juga viewpoint tidak bisa menemukan siapa sebenarnya Kenneth Elinger sebagai Chief Executive Officer dari Virgin Gold Mining Corporation & Subsidiaries.

Karena mereka semua tidak bisa menemukan link yang berisi misalnya riwayat pendidikan, riwayat pekerjaan, dan riwayat hidup lainnya atau pemberitaan mereka di majalah majalah atau koran koran resmi, mereka membuat sindiran bahwa para corporate executives vgmc semuanya adalah telah mati beserta link link yang berhasil mereka temukan.

Inti ceritanya, nama nama yang dipasang di jajaran corporate executives terindikasi sebagai  nama fiktif atau nama virtual. Dari sini menunjukkan apa? Menunjukkan semakin kuatnya indikasi bahwa vgmc itu scam dan perusahaan investasi abal abal tipu tipu. Ini terlihat dari nama nama yang fiktif supaya nanti kalau tiba waktunya, mereka bisa menghilangkan jejak dengan sangat mudahnya sebagaimana pengalaman bisnis scam ponzi yang dulu-dulu.

 

#623 Panama Forum (VGMC Scam): Kenneth Elinger ternyata sudah meninggal

lihat posting nomor 623 di:

http://www.panamaforum.com/business-panama/39979-virgin-gold-mining-corporation-scam-21.html

ternyata apa?

Kenneth A Elinger yang dipasang di website scam VGMC sebagai Direktor General Manager atau Panglima Tertinggi dari program Scam VGMC ternyata adalah tokoh yang sudah lama meninggal dunia. Demikian dari Panama Forum tentang VGMC Scam posting nomer 623. Berikut screenshot dari database website orang orang yang sudah meninggal dunia:

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demikian laporan singkat dari Panama Forum tentang VGMC Scam.

#619 Panama Forum [VGMC Scam] Gejala buruk VGMC akhir akhir ini

Menurut berita di http://www.panamaforum.com/business-panama/39979-virgin-gold-mining-corporation-scam-21.html telah teridentifikasi gejala gejala mau roboh nya VGMC; harap para “investor” (scammer pelaku sistem ponzi) waspada dan bersiap siap untuk menarik “investasi” Anda. “Investor” baru juga harap berpikir seribu kali untuk masuk terperangkap di VGMC.

Berikut copy paste nya

Some signs that this company is in trouble.
1) Reducing frequency of access to earned dividends
– from being able to withdraw anyday of the week to twice per month
2) Increasing the minimum number of shares that shareholders need to own
– from 1 lot, to 2 earlier this year, now it has become 3 lots
3) Introduction of new type of shares, exclusively for premium members
– it’s easier to generate more revenue from existing members, than it is from new ones
– plus you get to make them feel more special

[ARCHIVE OF PANAMA FORUM alternative ON] Virgin Gold Mining Corporation [Scam!] – Page 2

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Why are you so negative? you were against vgmc but yet you have not even become its shareholder and yet again you are judging it without experiencing. Where else, VGMC shareholder receiving its dividends without fail and without complaint.
    I’m sorry to say this, it seems that you are jealous of somebody’s success…
    BTW, this is the link that indicate that vgmc is legitimate with the approve from qualified attorney:

    is vgmc.com a scam – JustAnswer

    So Mr Lucas M Cookshank does not exist, neither does the JustAnswer attorney D Winogo. If D Winogo is a qualified New York attorney he would be registered here, he is not.
    Attorney Directory – Attorney Search
    I do not need to experience being ripped off by some bloke with a fake company and an ip address in Florida to know that it is a scam.
    http://www.domaindebug.com/vgmc.com
    On February 11th 2010 VGMC provided this non existent address on their website:
    Admin Office
    23rd Floor, Grand Mega Avenue, Puritan Road,
    Panama City, Panama.
    Telephone
    Asia: +852-55670119
    Europe: +41 – 4223322343
    Others: +1 82382020
    Fax: +1 333 777 000
    http://web.archive.org/web/201002111…/www.vgmc.com/

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    I’ve been in VGMC for more than 2 years now and the company never rest of giving its dividends to its shareholders

    How did they send your ‘dividends’ from the fake address in Grand Mega Avenue ?
    BTW Here is what VGMC were doing on February 27th 2007,

    vgmc.com

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Quote Originally Posted by VGMC Asia View Post
    I’ve been in VGMC for more than 2 years now and the company never rest of giving its dividends to its shareholders. If you wish to know more, i can assist you on this. You can also visit my vgmc facebook site.

    Even the “real” Virgin Gold Minnig Corporation says VGMC Asia is a scam!

    VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION – SCAM ALERT

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Quote Originally Posted by BalaBeacher View Post
    Even the “real” Virgin Gold Minnig Corporation says VGMC Asia is a scam!

    VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION – SCAM ALERT

    good work from both you and Ed

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    I think they’re all ponzi schemes. Financial statements? List of properties acquired and projects since 1999? Anything?

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Even the “real” Virgin Gold Minnig Corporation says VGMC Asia is a scam!

    Delicious.

    I think they’re all ponzi schemes. Financial statements? List of properties acquired and projects since 1999? Anything?

    They have nothing but assurances from shils like VGMC Asia that they are getting their dividends without any problems. The shils get more ‘dividends’ for enlisting more victims.
    It looks like the ‘dividends’ are credited to the victim’s account in ounces of gold, gold is going up, therefore nobody wants to withdraw much ‘actual cash’ out and thus the ponzi continues. All the victim has is a screenshot of their account indicating how many ‘shares’ they own and how much has been credited in fake ounces of gold. The ponzi collapses when too many people want to take hard cash out.

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Hi I am from Singapore,
    a friend of mine had refer me
    to this forum when I share
    with him about VGMC.

    Just to share some information
    with everybody, and I hope it helps
    to clarify some doubts about investing
    in VGMC.

    First of all, I am an investor myself,
    so I am very concern about my money,
    I wouldn’t invest in something that I am
    not sure or comfortable with.

    The following are some of my story :

    Before Joining VGMC :

    I was introduce by a friend to VGMC,
    I was extremely skeptical about it,
    as it sounds to be too good.
    After reviewing from my friend’s returns
    and some research, I decided to put in
    a little money to try, and that’s how I get started.

    After Joining VGMC :

    Till date, I have not encounter any problem
    getting the dividends from VGMC,
    my ROI is 170%, in another words,
    my returns had reach infinity,
    I got back my capital and some profit,
    AND IS NOW INSIDE MY BANK,
    so whatever I am getting from VGMC,
    is all pure profit.
    MY GREATEST CONCERN IS TO SEE MY
    MONEY IN MY BANK ACCT.

    I have invested in companies who have
    offices in Singapore, but my money is stuck
    inside, so what, if they can promise you
    a lot of nice things but can’t deliver.

    Every investment comes with a risk,
    as long as you have not get back your
    investment capital, you have 100% risk,
    irregardless of what you invest in.
    E.g Real estate, shares, stocks, options,
    business, etc.

    For those who have doutbs about VGMC,
    feel free to email me for proof at ;
    support@moneyinboxwealth.com

    Those who are still concern,
    there is 2 ways to resolve it.
    One, get a team of lawyers, accountants,
    investors, etc.
    buy tickets, fly over to their
    office to check on them.
    Two, just do nothing and don’t invest
    in VGMC, as simple as that.
    (And please stop speculating the
    rumours without any proof,
    if you want someone to proof
    it is truth, and you denied the facts,
    then you got to find proof to
    show that this company is
    no good, is just like fighting
    a case in the court, you need to
    have proof to show or defend your
    case, now does that mades sense?)

    I am not against anybody,
    I am an investor also,
    but I just can’t stand seeing
    people just talk and talk.
    (Talk is cheap)
    Take up your courage to find out
    the truth by doing the ground work,
    and not just talk.

    However I will respect people
    who can show me the proof,
    that VGMC is a scam.

    Goodluck,
    Terrence Wan

    P.S : Every investments are risky
    if you do not know how.

    P.S.S : Feel free to contact me
    for further indepth information.

    P.S.S.S ; The choice is yours to made,
    and no one else.

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Quote Originally Posted by terrencewan View Post
    Hi I am from Singapore,
    a friend of mine had refer me
    to this forum when I share
    with him about VGMC.

    However I will respect people
    who can show me the proof,
    that VGMC is a scam.

    Show us that VGMC is NOT a scam, such as:

    – Financial statements (Profits and Loss Statements and Balance Sheet)
    – Gold mines, gold funds, or other gold investments claimed to be owned by VGMC
    – Statement reflecting the units of stock outstanding, common and preferred, and other investment units which you claim to own.

    Your unsupported, ridiculous statements mean nothing.

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    BalaBeacher, as stated earlier,
    show me that VGMC is a scam,
    can you?
    This is a chicken and egg issue,
    if you want to defends your statement
    that VGMC is a scam,
    you need to provide some proof first
    before we can proceed further.
    I am not avoiding your request,
    but I only deal with sincere and honest
    people who are really looking
    for a good investments.

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Quote Originally Posted by terrencewan View Post
    BalaBeacher, as stated earlier,
    show me that VGMC is a scam,
    can you?
    This is a chicken and egg issue,
    if you want to defends your statement
    that VGMC is a scam,
    you need to provide some proof first
    before we can proceed further.
    I am not avoiding your request,
    but I only deal with sincere and honest
    people who are really looking
    for a good investments.

    Huh? Good investment? Investing in what? Some con’s promise to pay? With what profits? Show me a single source of profit for this company. Name me a gold mine it bought / developed. Name me a mining company it bought / invested in. Show me ANYTHING it has done with investor money other than (i) use for the fraudster’s own benefit and (ii) pay back early “investors.” Again, this is a ponzi scheme. (By the way, investments from a new sucker do not constitute profits.)

    Why, if this is a legitimate company with legitimate (and apparently incredible investing acumen), can no one provide us a single example of a single investment that has generated all these profits?

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    To everybody,
    I am not related to VGMC,
    I am an investor myself,
    so I don’t Sweet Talk to anyone,
    the reason for me to post on this forum
    is to clarify some of the doubts
    people have.
    However, an eye for an eye,
    if someone were to challenge my statements,
    do provide some proof before asking
    for proof, as i say before,
    talk is cheap, I will only entertain
    people who are sincere
    and have done some “homework”
    before asking for something.

    My criterias before I releases
    any of my documents of proofs,
    the reason is simple,
    I don’t want to deal with people
    who knows only to ask, but not give
    or provides any ground work:

    1. He/she must be a serious investors,
    some ground work had been done
    before any further discussion with me.

    2. He/she must go through the
    websites : VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION
    to understand the overall of the company
    before asking me any questions,
    as it is a waste of time for me,
    because most of the questions
    people have is already in the Q&A

    3. I only deal with people who
    had already invested in other forms
    of investments, like stocks, shares,
    options, real estate, etc.
    Because they will understand what
    investment is all about,
    is easy for me to explain to them.
    e.g, the thinking of an employers
    and employees are totally different.
    An employers will only think of ways
    to made money for their business,
    how to grow their business, etc.
    An employees, will think of how to do less
    and get pay more, they expect to have
    their salary to increase over the years.

    So in conclusion, I am here to
    made friends not enemies,
    I can only share with you what
    I think, a point of view is still a point
    of view, it is subjected to what you
    personally think and know,
    there isn’t any right or wrong,
    so if you are not comfortable with
    something, my advice is simple,
    stay away from it, that’s all.

    However if you are passionate
    about your life to achieve financial
    freedom, then I suggest you start
    taking some risk, which you can afford
    to take the loss. No pain no gain,
    we all learnt from our mistake,
    failure is the mother of all success,
    you never try you never know…

    Goodluck,
    Terrence Wan

    P.S : I am not here to convince
    people to invest in VGMC,
    I am here to share my point of view.
    I have nothing to do with your life,
    the choice is yours to take.
    Blame no one for your own action
    except yourself.

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Quote Originally Posted by BalaBeacher View Post
    Huh? Good investment? Investing in what? Some con’s promise to pay? With what profits? Show me a single source of profit for this company. Name me a gold mine it bought / developed. Name me a mining company it bought / invested in. Show me ANYTHING it has done with investor money other than (i) use for the fraudster’s own benefit and (ii) pay back early “investors.” Again, this is a ponzi scheme. (By the way, investments from a new sucker do not constitute profits.)

    Why, if this is a legitimate company with legitimate (and apparently incredible investing acumen), can no one provide us a single example of a single investment that has generated all these profits?

    Hey BalaBeacher, I have no idea why you seems to hate VGMC so much,
    you keep on asking for proof, so may I know how much do you know
    about VGMC? Have you done any ground work, like go to their office,
    check with people who had already invested in VGMC, etc.
    If not, then I think you have to do some work before asking
    so many questions, that’s to be fair with people who
    bother to entertain you, as they are not paid to do so.
    As I mention earlier, I don’t sweet talk to people,
    I am just stating the facts.
    I only talk to people who deserve to be answers,
    and I expect them to be polite when asking
    me for advice.

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Quote Originally Posted by terrencewan View Post
    Hey BalaBeacher, I have no idea why you seems to hate VGMC so much,
    you keep on asking for proof, so may I know how much do you know
    about VGMC? Have you done any ground work, like go to their office,
    check with people who had already invested in VGMC, etc.
    If not, then I think you have to do some work before asking
    so many questions, that’s to be fair with people who
    bother to entertain you, as they are not paid to do so.
    As I mention earlier, I don’t sweet talk to people,
    I am just stating the facts.
    I only talk to people who deserve to be answers,
    and I expect them to be polite when asking
    me for advice.

    You aren’t giving ANY facts you moron no matter how many times you say it. You’re saying it’s a legitimate investment, but provide nothing but your ignorant conclusions. Yes, we’ve seen their offices in Panama City. You couldn’t get 5 persons in there, let alone the 500 employees they say they have. Wise up you f’m monkey! We’re on to you.

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Quote Originally Posted by BalaBeacher View Post
    You aren’t giving ANY facts you moron no matter how many times you say it. You’re saying it’s a legitimate investment, but provide nothing but your ignorant conclusions. Yes, we’ve seen their offices in Panama City. You couldn’t get 5 persons in there, let alone the 500 employees they say they have. Wise up you f’m monkey! We’re on to you.

    As say before, you f**king Bastard stupid moron cum …………
    Stop wasting my time,
    I am here to state my point of view,
    I don’t own you an explaination,
    go f**k the spider…

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Is it time to remind everybody that Virgin Gold Mining Corporation is on the Monetary Authority of Singapore’s investor alert list?
    Consumer Portal: Consumer Portal: Investor Alert List

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Quote Originally Posted by EdBowers View Post
    Is it time to remind everybody that Virgin Gold Mining Corporation is on the Monetary Authority of Singapore’s investor alert list?
    Consumer Portal: Consumer Portal: Investor Alert List

    I have done my due diligent, i have check with
    malaysia and Singapore sides,
    I have ticket them about it,
    according to their reply,
    as they are offshore company,
    that’s why they are not listed
    in the Authority site,
    but till date, no evident to proof
    that VGMC is a scam,
    however, we received many warning
    from VGMC, that many are trying
    to duplicate their success and
    try to steal the password and ID
    from the existing share holders,
    so be careful not to fall into the
    trap of others unethical people.

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Quote Originally Posted by terrencewan View Post
    as it sounds to be too good.

    My parents have always told me “if it sounds too good to be true it probably is”, but your story sounds so credible that i’ve decided to stick in my life savings .. hope you’re serious 

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Quote Originally Posted by janl View Post
    My parents have always told me “if it sounds too good to be true it probably is”, but your story sounds so credible that i’ve decided to stick in my life savings .. hope you’re serious 

    Hi, as mention to you earlier,
    any and every investments are 100%
    risky, as long as your capital is still
    not recover yet, so I strongly suggest
    you put in the minimum sum,
    study and understand how it works,
    once you recover your capital and some
    profit, then is up to you to decide how
    you want to play the game,
    because the ball is on your side,
    even if the company close down,
    so what? You are still at the winning end,
    never ever be greedy,
    this is the main reason why people
    lost so much money in all forms of investment,
    play smartly and not recklessly.

    So far, I have help all my friends who
    invested in VGMC to recover all their capital
    with some profit.
    After that, I let them do whatever they want,
    they can continue to get their dividends,
    they can reinvest to do compounding interest,
    they can half recover half compound it,
    is all up to them, as it is all pure profit.

    So please remember,
    never be greedy,
    work on your plan,
    that’s to recover your principle asap,
    once you reach your goals,
    proceed to the next plan,
    which you can determine by yourself.

    Play within your means,
    don’t over stretch your budget,
    just invest 10% of your budget,
    never put all the eggs inside one basket,
    irregardless of how good the investments are.

    Goodluck,
    Terrence wan

    P.S : Whatever you have decided,
    be brave to face the consequences,
    blaming others is easy,
    facing the truth is tough,
    be responsible for your own action..

    P.S.S : Remember, I am not here to
    encourage people to invest in VGMC,
    I am saying what I have encounter in real life,
    don’t ask me for some stupid proof,
    I am not a staff of VGMC,
    I just want to made my money
    work hard for me, rather then I work
    hard for money.

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    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Quote Originally Posted by terrencewan View Post
    P.S : I am not here to convince people to invest in VGMC,

    Sure you are. That’s the only reason why you are here. Admins, if you have any common sense kill this thread already. Panama has a bad enough reputation for criminal activity as it is.

    P.S.> If you want to invest in gold or silver buy physical metal only from reputable dealers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    Sure you are. That’s the only reason why you are here. Admins, if you have any common sense kill this thread already. Panama has a bad enough reputation for criminal activity as it is.

    P.S.> If you want to invest in gold or silver buy physical metal only from reputable dealers.

    OMG, another xxx,
    obviously the above thing
    never read the earlier thread as
    why I happen to drop by this forum,
    and I really don’t bother to answer to this “thing”,
    as it will waste my time to say more.

    The reason why I need to reply is because
    if I don’t, this thing will try to tell the whole
    world that I am here to create trouble.
    But if you read into details,
    you will know that these people are
    here to create trouble,
    they only know how to ask people
    for proof but yet don’t provide
    any sustainable evidences to support
    their words.

    I don’t like to visit forum because
    I notice some people say what they want
    and is not regulated by someone,
    so is a waste of my time.

    The admin for this forum should
    take a look at what people are saying,
    and should take necessary action
    by suspending those who only know
    how to ask stupid questions without
    any contributions.

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    “A fool and his/her money are soon parted.”

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    oh where can i invest all my money in this great deal also , i feel it is only right to help keep this pyramid growing LOL. terrencewan only needs a few more people to invest and then he might get his money back . so come on guys , lets go all in LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrencewan View Post
    I am here to state my point of view,
    I don’t own [sic] you an explaination

    Yes, you do. If you’re going to use this forum to promote investing in VGMC (which is what you’re doing), then expect to be asked to furnish some FACTS about the company, none of which has been furnished by you or VGMC (assuming you are not one and the same). Neither you nor the website (nor any other source on the internet) offers a single clue how this company makes these apparently miraculous profits. Only an idiot would invest without such information. Oops, sorry to start name-calling again.

    One GOOD thing you’ve done: Now, this thread shows up nicely when VGMC is Googled. Unknowingly, your efforts to promote it may very well serve to protect others from doing so in the future. So, to increase relevance in such a search, let me finish with: VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION, SCAM, VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION, SCAM, VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION, SCAM, VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION, SCAM, VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION, SCAM

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    and VGMC SCAM

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalaBeacher View Post
    Yes, you do. If you’re going to use this forum to promote investing in VGMC (which is what you’re doing), then expect to be asked to furnish some FACTS about the company, none of which has been furnished by you or VGMC (assuming you are not one and the same). Neither you nor the website (nor any other source on the internet) offers a single clue how this company makes these apparently miraculous profits. Only an idiot would invest without such information. Oops, sorry to start name-calling again.

    One GOOD thing you’ve done: Now, this thread shows up nicely when VGMC is Googled. Unknowingly, your efforts to promote it may very well serve to protect others from doing so in the future. So, to increase relevance in such a search, let me finish with: VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION, SCAM, VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION, SCAM, VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION, SCAM, VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION, SCAM, VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION, SCAM

    Great to see that you are aware of your mistake
    and start to talk like a human being,
    don’t ever use sarcastic remarks against others,
    you have no right to do that,
    do some soul searching before you post it up.

    Say whatever you want against VGMC,
    I don’t belong to VGMC,
    I am just an investor.

    You can curse VGMC,
    but don’t ever have any personal
    attact against anyone,
    this is unforgiveable.

    As i said earlier, I don’t own anyone
    any explanation, I just want to say is
    do your own due diligent,
    that’s all.

    P.S ; Think again, what benefits do I have
    if I am able to convince you to join VGMC?
    NONE.
    Unless you sign in under me,
    but I never take in strangers,
    this is my personal principles,
    if I do not know you well,
    I won’t take you in,
    even if you beg me to.

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    this guy is just like the Eveready bunny .

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    Quote Originally Posted by nakedguydb View Post
    this guy is just like the Eveready bunny .

    It’s pointless to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man!

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    I thought that Mr Terence Wan from moneyinboxwealth was in Singapore, the ip address is Dallas, Texas USA. Curious.
    moneyinboxwealth.com – United States IP. Detailed location, ISP and more info.

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    I thought that Mr Terence Wan from moneyinboxwealth was in Singapore, the ip address is Dallas, Texas USA. Curious.
    moneyinboxwealth.com – United States IP. Detailed location, ISP and more info.

    This thing gets better by the minute. Here’s Mr. Wan’s business:

    The main component for the Fusionology tool is our personal library of BRAND NEW, professionally written home business books that you can use to BRAND YOURSELF AS AN EXPERT! This is called Private Label Rights.Using this 3 step process, you can instantly and immediately brand yourself as a home business expert even if you can’t/won’t write a single word – even if you have to write to save your life!Step one: Take the WORD document provided with each book:Step two: Open The Word Doc and Find the TitleStep Three: Name YOURSELF As The Author! (Yes You Have 100% Full Rights To Do So!)
    If your name is ‘John Smith’, just write it in… and Voila!
    Your OWN BOOK written in your own name!
    Step Four: Now, instead of you and your organization passing out books like Rich Dad, Poor Dad or Copycat Marketing 101, why not get everyone to pass out YOUR Own book instead?
    “You Can Now Market Your Book To ANY Market…
    Online Or Offline!”
    Our books are tailored for you to dominate any market using the same book over and over again!We call this strategy – Fusionology Market DominationYou can use the Internet to create a promotional strategy by sending ‘spam free’, permission based emails where you can:
    1) Send 2 to 3 emails promoting your book to one market like Internet marketing…
    2) Afterwards, you will easily send another 2 to 3 emails to a different market like home based business markets
    3) You can proceed to dominate the self-improvement market and many more
    4) Rinse and repeat…
    Do you see how this method works?And you get not ONE book, but TEN books that you can brand yourself as the author and market it for profits!Here’s a breakdown of exactly what you will receive…
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    Someone ban this cock sucker scammer willya?

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  • 10-20-2011

    Mahma

    Virgin Gold Mining Corporation [Scam!]

    Anybody can give me information regarding VGMC business that its’ head office is in Panama?. This company offers very interesting interest for investor, and as we can guess a lot of people (in Indonesia) are interested to invest their money in this company. I would like to know: is this company having good reputations and really existing?

  • 10-21-2011

    EdBowers

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    ,Unless Richard Branson is behind it to me, the Virgin Gold Mining Corporation screams scam!

  • 10-21-2011

    EdBowers

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    The address listed on their website

    Virgin Gold Mining Corporation
    Torre Global Bank Building
    Calle 50 & Calle 58 Este
    Piso 31, Oficina 3105
    Panama City, Republic of Panama

    VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION

    Curious, cant seem to find this corporation listed in the Panamanian registry.

    http://ohuiginn.net/panama/

  • 10-21-2011

    Contrail

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Sloppy work Ed. Always to to the source: Registro Público de Panamá

    Agente Residente: PANAMA OFFSHORE LEGAL SERVICES, (POLS)

    Fecha de Registro: 02-02-1999

    Moneda: ACCIONES SIN VALOR NOMINAL.
    Monto de Capital: 0.00
    PRESIDENTE GERASIMO SAMUDIO
    TESORERO GERASIMO SAMUDIO
    SECRETARIO GERASIMO SAMUDIO

    https://www.registro-publico.gob.pa/…es/printer.png

    No. de Ficha:
    356393
    No. Documento:
    Nombre de la Sociedad:
    VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION.
    Tomo: 0 Folio: 0 Asiento: 0
    Fecha de Registro: 02-02-1999 Status: VIGENTE
    No. de Escritura: 559 Fecha de Escritura: 20-01-1999
    Notaria:
    41
    		 NOTARIA OCTAVA DEL CIRCUITO
    Provincia Notaria: PANAMA
    Duración: PERPETUA Domicilio: PANAMA
    Status de la Prenda: (DEF-DEFINITIVA, PRE-PRELIMINAR)
    Datos de 1a. Tasa Única
    Boleta: 0 Fecha de Pago: 00-00-0000
    Agente Residente: PANAMA OFFSHORE LEGAL SERVICES, (POLS)
    Datos del Diario
    Tomo: 274 Asiento: 7774
    Datos de Microfilmación
    Rollo: 63919 Imagen: 11
    Moneda: ACCIONES SIN VALOR NOMINAL.
    Monto de Capital: 0.00
    Capital
    EL CAPITAL SOCIAL ES DE QUINIENTAS ACCIONES, SIN VALOR NOMINAL,
    NOMINATIVAS O AL PORTADOR.
    Representante Legal
    EL PRESIDENTE, O EL SECRETARIO INDISTINTAMENTE, Y EN AUSENCIA DE TODOS
    EL TESORERO. INDISTINTAMENTE.
    Título del Dignatario Nombre del Dignatario
    PRESIDENTE GERASIMO SAMUDIO
    TESORERO GERASIMO SAMUDIO
    SECRETARIO GERASIMO SAMUDIO
    Nombre de los Directores
    GERASIMO SAMUDIO
    JUAN CARLOS OJO BENITEZ
    JUAN DEL ROSARIO OJO REYES
    Nombre de los Suscriptores
    JAIME ANTONIO GRAELL
    MODESTO HENRIQUEZ
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EdBowers View Post
    The address listed on their website

    Virgin Gold Mining Corporation
    Torre Global Bank Building
    Calle 50 & Calle 58 Este
    Piso 31, Oficina 3105
    Panama City, Republic of Panama

    VIRGIN GOLD MINING CORPORATION

    Curious, cant seem to find this corporation listed in the Panamanian registry.

    http://ohuiginn.net/panama/

  • 10-21-2011

    Contrail

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    If you look at:

    http://ohuiginn.net/panama/person/GERASIMO SAMUDIO

    You will notice that the guy acting as president, secretary and treasurer is a Panamanian monkey who signs papers because someone pays him money. He has no clue what is going on and will run and hide if something happens.

    I recommend you call Panama Offshore Legal Services who is the registered agent and ask them for a reference. Ask them to have the owner of the company call you – they issued the certificate most likely. Also make sure to question them, put them on notice that you will help take the lawfirm down if there is fraud going on. Check if the guy above is one of their employees.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mahma View Post
    Anybody can give me information regarding VGMC business that its’ head office is in Panama?. This company offers very interesting interest for investor, and as we can guess a lot of people (in Indonesia) are interested to invest their money in this company. I would like to know: is this company having good reputations and really existing?
  • 10-21-2011

    Mahma

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Thanks big for information, and I have sent a letter to Panama Offshore Legal Services to get final reference.

  • 10-21-2011

    fleeted

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    I agree with Ed big scam! Invest now in the great panama gold rush!!! hahahaha

  • 10-21-2011

    Mahma

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    So..they give great hopes by giving great cheating???

  • 10-21-2011

    EdBowers

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Not looking good so far, a quick google reveals:

    Global Investor Alerts – Cold-calling Alert! – Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    And they feature on the government of Singapore’s Investor Alert list.

    Consumer Portal: Consumer Portal: Investor Alert List

  • 10-21-2011

    EdBowers

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation
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    So..they give great hopes by giving great cheating???

    It is not great cheating, they don’t list one specific gold mine on their website that they are involved in. There are no corporate accounts just a lot of waffle. It looks like an on line scam where you purchase ‘preferred shares’ online and receive the monthly dividend in ‘ounces of gold’ in your online account. Of course , when you want your money back the difficulties will arise bigtime. As Contrail pointed out Senor Semudio will be of absolutely no help and I doubt that the address will turn out to be any more than an office address for a multitude of ‘nominee’ corporations.

    There is also an Investor alert from the Malaysian Securities Commission.

    http://www.sc.com.my/main.asp?pageid…&linkid=&type=

    Mahma, what annual rate of return do they promise ?

  • 10-22-2011

    Mahma

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    They promise to Indonesian investor 0,1 oz(10grm)/100 shares/month. They sell us$1.20/share. What do you think with this charming offer?

  • 10-22-2011

    EdBowers

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation
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    What do you think with this charming offer?

    It is a scam, ponzi, multi layer marketing all meaning one thing, fraud. No legitimate company pays 10% a month. Here is another website in the USA with exactly the same scam.

    FxCapitalMarket

    Here is their Panama headquarters before it was rented. 169 M2 is too small for ‘one of the worlds leading gold exploration and mining companies ‘ ‘with approximately 500 employees’ it is about the size of a 2 to 3 bedroom appartment.

    Office for Lease: Office 3105 For Rent In Global Bank | Powered by vFlyer

    You should do some internet research and see how ponzi schemes operate and how many unsatisfied customers there are with the gold shares scam, they are mostly in Asia.

  • 10-25-2011

    Mahma

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    For EdBowers and other senior members: Your advices are really very useful for me to take a decision. I never did investment in gold, it will be the first time, but it seems scary and full with somethings unreal.

  • 10-25-2011

    EdBowers

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Mahma, do not do any investment with Virgin Gold Mining if you don’t want to lose your money, check their ip address, it is in Florida USA. Nobody references them on the web apart from themselves and some get rich quick investment blogs, not one newspaper or mining industry journal. They concentrate on investors in Asia hoping that you won’t figure this out. Buy ETF’s or mining shares listed on the New York stock exchange instead. Can someone else post and back me up on this one?

  • 10-25-2011

    Contrail

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    It is high time the investors call/email Panama Offshore Legal Services in Bella Vista, Panama and ask them. If they cannot show a copy of an email to them at least they can continue investing their money for all I care.

  • 10-26-2011

    Mahma

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    I did post an email to Panama Offshore Legal Service a couple days ago, I asked them regarding this VGMC and I hope their references can make Indonesian investors realize that what they have done are not safe. Now I clearly understand after getting your advices but I want to try to minimize new victims in this business. I’m telling you, now such on-line business: gold mining investment, gold coin and other gold businesses, which are unclear, are growing in my country. That’s why I need legal formal references to make them sure with what I’m saying.

  • 10-26-2011

    nakedguydb

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation
    Quote:
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    Mahma, do not do any investment with Virgin Gold Mining if you don’t want to lose your money, check their ip address, it is in Florida USA. Nobody references them on the web apart from themselves and some get rich quick investment blogs, not one newspaper or mining industry journal. They concentrate on investors in Asia hoping that you won’t figure this out. Buy ETF’s or mining shares listed on the New York stock exchange instead. Can someone else post and back me up on this one?

    i think that buying ETFs are also a great gamble . they are just paper shares that a oversold about 30-1 in gold and maybe as high as 100-1 in silver . just buy physical metal , because if you are not holding it , you dont own it .

  • 10-26-2011

    BalaBeacher

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Excellent research Ed and Contrail!

    Mahma? Donde esta?

  • 10-27-2011

    Annepannetje

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Gerasimo Samudio is I think employee of POLS, and is director of several Offshore companies throughout Panama, he indeed is paid for his signatures and he has in written letter in which is said he is fired and not responsible for anything that happens with/in the company. POLS: Panama Offshore Legal Services Telephone number: 2276645. English is spoken but not very well…

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Contrail View Post
    If you look at:

    http://ohuiginn.net/panama/person/GERASIMO SAMUDIO

    You will notice that the guy acting as president, secretary and treasurer is a Panamanian monkey who signs papers because someone pays him money. He has no clue what is going on and will run and hide if something happens.

    I recommend you call Panama Offshore Legal Services who is the registered agent and ask them for a reference. Ask them to have the owner of the company call you – they issued the certificate most likely. Also make sure to question them, put them on notice that you will help take the lawfirm down if there is fraud going on. Check if the guy above is one of their employees.

  • 10-27-2011

    EdBowers

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation
    Quote:

    Gerasimo Samudio is I think employee of POLS, and is director of several Offshore companies throughout Panama, he indeed is paid for his signatures and he has in written letter in which is said he is fired and not responsible for anything that happens with/in the company. POLS

    The classic nominee set up then.

    One aspect of ‘nominees’ that is probably not widely known is the UK Inland Revenue for example, can deem a nominee as an oxymoron. Once they establish a link to a taxpayer in the UK to an offshore corporation and demonstrate that the corporation is in fact being run from the UK they can nail you. I remember one case where somebody owned a house in the UK through an offshore nominee set up and had a company credit card. The Inland revenue took the view that the company was controlled by this person in the UK and he was the beneficial owner as that is where the instructions were originated from. Don’t know how the IRS view these things though.

  • 10-27-2011

    EdBowers

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    Number 3 on google for Virgin Gold Mining, looks like a comprehensive trashing in Malay.
    (SCAM) Virgin Gold Mining Corporation VGMC | Berita Semasa

    Here is ‘ Invest2Me ‘ the Virgin Gold Mining shill, assuring everyone that he makes almost $40,000 a month trading gold on the TalkGold forum. Ever wonder why the ‘Investment Experts’ waste their valuable time posting on forums trying to persuade others that they have that elusive secret formula to instant riches? After all, they could be swilling champagne and lighting cigars with $100 bills whilst cruising on a yacht having massages from swimsuit models.


    “I’m make almost usd40,000 per month here through gold trading.    ”

    He obviously wouldn’t make any money at all if he had to teach English Grammar…

    Virgin Gold Mining Corporation – vgmc.com – Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum

  • 10-28-2011

    Mahma

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    for BalaBeacher. I am in Bali Indonesia. I agree with you Ed and Contrail have done excellent research.
    I have tried to call Panama Offshore Legal Service, but someone who picked up the phone spoke in language I could not understand and he didn’t speak English.

  • 10-29-2011

    EdBowers

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation
    Quote:

    but someone who picked up the phone spoke in language I could not understand and he didn’t speak English.

    They would obviously speak Spanish but for a company with an English name and and English website that targets foreigners for clients, it is extremely unlikely that there is no one available that can speak English. Much more likely is that they don’t welcome awkward enquiries but would immediately have a fluent English speaker available if you indicated that wanted to be a client.

    I am not in Panama at the moment but if anyone is passing the Global Bank tower and has time to check out office 3105 it would be fascinating to learn what actually goes on there.

    Meanwhile, this type of scam seems to be very extensive in Asia under differing names and at least this thread is a source that potential Asian victims can learn from.

  • 11-05-2011

    farooq341

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    There are no corporate accounts just a lot of waffle. It looks like an on line scam where you purchase ‘preferred shares’ online and receive the monthly dividend in ‘ounces of gold’ in your online account. Of course , when you want your money back the difficulties will arise bigtime. As Contrail pointed out Senor Semudio will be of absolutely

  • 11-11-2011

    stramen

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    so, anyone has checking the office? i’m from Indonesia too, and found this forum coz I really curious about VGMC that have many investors in my country. They also establish gathering regularly, and building the investor or nominee trust.

  • 11-23-2011

    VGMC Asia

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    I’ve been in VGMC for more than 2 years now and the company never rest of giving its dividends to its shareholders. If you wish to know more, i can assist you on this. You can also visit my vgmc facebook site.
    VGMC Asia | Facebook

  • 11-25-2011

    EdBowers

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation
    Quote:

    I’ve been in VGMC for more than 2 years now and the company never rest of giving its dividends to its shareholders. If you wish to know more, i can assist you on this. You can also visit my vgmc facebook site.

    No, I would prefer to meet the real brains at their Panama Global Tower office, can you make an appoint with Lucas M. Cookshank? Monday November 28th is good for me. Meanwhile, how about posting your dividend statements here?

  • 11-26-2011

    VGMC Asia

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation
    Quote:
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    No, I would prefer to meet the real brains at their Panama Global Tower office, can you make an appoint with Lucas M. Cookshank? Monday November 28th is good for me. Meanwhile, how about posting your dividend statements here?

    Why are you so negative? you were against vgmc but yet you have not even become its shareholder and yet again you are judging it without experiencing. Where else, VGMC shareholder receiving its dividends without fail and without complaint.
    I’m sorry to say this, it seems that you are jealous of somebody’s success…
    BTW, this is the link that indicate that vgmc is legitimate with the approve from qualified attorney:
    is vgmc.com a scam – JustAnswer

    Out of your curiosity, I too was skeptical regarding this at first. But now, at least i’m having extra income aside from my salary. I’m just here to share my experience towards vgmc and encouraging potential shareholders to join without obligation.

  • 11-26-2011

    VGMC Asia

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation

    I’ve been in VGMC for more than 2 years now and the company never rest of giving its dividends to its shareholders. If you wish to know more, i can assist you on this. You can also visit my vgmc facebook site.
    VGMC Asia | Facebook

  • 11-26-2011

    VGMC Asia

    Re: Virgin Gold Mining Corporation
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stramen View Post
    so, anyone has checking the office? i’m from Indonesia too, and found this forum coz I really curious about VGMC that have many investors in my country. They also establish gathering regularly, and building the investor or nominee trust.

    If you wish to know more, i can assist you on this. You can also visit my vgmc facebook site.
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